BRUSHLESS Setups & 1/10th scales

[expertbasser]

It's been quite a while since I've used brushless, (last time was in an electric 3D plane!) BUT what would be a suggestion for a 1/10th scale 2WD truck, BUT NOT the Novak 5.5! I heard they were way too much!!!!

Thanks!
Greg J.

[jr1976]

The 5.5 is a handful in a 4wd buggy. Man it sure is fun though.rough on tires too!

[cbonner99]

Greg why did you post this in the radio section?:confused: Radio setup is what you like, you should know that :blbl:

[expertbasser]

Greg why did you post this in the radio section?:confused: Radio setup is what you like, you should know that :blbl:


I dont know........ I figured since it is an electric motor, NOT an engine, it would be best suited here. (Besides, I seen another brushless thread here too!)

[Joe V]

I love my 6.5, get you a 4wd buggy!

[jr1976]

GOT MY LIPO TODAY, JOE. GONNA TRY HER OUT TOMORROW. BOUGHT ME A B3 TOO. :rctruck:

[expertbasser]

Nah, gotta have a TRUCK!

(Besides, I have tons of stuff high bid on ebay for the T4!)

[RC_KAOS]

What type of battery will you be using? Do you plan on racing?

[expertbasser]

What type of battery will you be using? Do you plan on racing?

7.4-11.1 Lipo, & absolutely on the racing part.

I used to race STOCK 2WD electric truck many years ago. When you had to go 5 mins on a 2000mah pack. Looking back NOW, I really wished there were this kinda brushless setups back then.

[ImGoinRCn]

I think you would do great with a 8.5-10.5 and an SMC 7.4 pack with some decent capacity...you'd be surprised how much power you would have with a 10.5. Overpowered, you'll be spinning your tires. Remember, slow is fast!

I ran a 5.5 on my T3 and it was waaayyyy too much power. On my TC3 on dirt, that's a different story.:D

[expertbasser]

I think you would do great with a 8.5-10.5 and an SMC 7.4 pack with some decent capacity...you'd be surprised how much power you would have with a 10.5. Overpowered, you'll be spinning your tires. Remember, slow is fast!

I ran a 5.5 on my T3 and it was waaayyyy too much power. On my TC3 on dirt, that's a different story.:D


Thanks! ALL this brushless stuff confuses the *&^% outta me!

LOL!!!

[Joe V]

You don't need no 11.1v pack, I am going to get a 10.5 to go in my Truck, but the 6.5 is just so much fun in the Lazer it's going to be hard to change it out

[knoxslasher]

You don't need no 11.1v pack, I am going to get a 10.5 to go in my Truck, but the 6.5 is just so much fun in the Lazer it's going to be hard to change it out

+1 on not "needing" 11.1v in a brushless 2wd on dirt

[ImGoinRCn]

Thanks! ALL this brushless stuff confuses the *&^% outta me!

LOL!!!
lol brushless and lipos aren't hard at all to understand. The smaller the number on the BL motor, the faster it is. I agree on the 11.1v lipo, it's like strapping a rocket on a Huffy. 2 cells are equivalent to a 6 cell NiMH. If I'm not mistaken, some units like the GTB can't handle a 11.1v lipo.

[jr1976]

The gtb can only handle up to 2s lipo or the older ones anyway

[Joe V]

new ones too. Mine just 2 cell only

[jr1976]

HAD TO DO SOME MODIFYING TO GET THE LIPO TO FIT THE ZX5 BUT THE END RESULT WAS WORTH IT>:D:rctruck:

[Joe V]

Yes you gotta grind down the webbing in the bottom of the chassis ans I had to raise up the strap mounts a little.

Hey JR, how big is a good crank pin on a V-Spec ? Mine is 5.01mm, and its got a little play, don't know if it's the pin or rod!

[jr1976]

We got into this discussion the other day.scoob told me the min. Dia.of the crank pin is 4.93mm with no more than .05 difference any where on the crank so sounds like your rod.btw how you like the v spec.

[Joe V]

We got into this discussion the other day.scoob told me the min. Dia.of the crank pin is 4.93mm with no more than .05 difference any where on the crank so sounds like your rod.btw how you like the v spec.

Cool, thanks. I saw where you all were talking just couldn't remember or find it again. Engine is fine, good power thru the whole RPM range. just got done pinching the sleeve, now need to get a rod, but I am going to run it till it blows and might rebuild to Speed spec.
Later guys it's past my bedtime:eek:

[expertbasser]

I was also looking at the Mamba BL esc & mtr setup. It states it can handle a 3 cell lipo. BUT, I do aggree! 3 cell will be TOO MUCH!

BUT, I assume (& we ALL know what THAT does! LOL>!) the HIGHER the "C" rating, the higher the output of the pack? I was told a while back, that on an 1/8th scale starter box, you wanted a 30C or more.

[Joe V]

just use the lipo from your 3pk!!

[expertbasser]

uh,............no!

besides, I dont need to be doing backflips over the 2 doubles at Harmony Hills!

LOL!!!:bat2head:

Hey, I dont think I'll be needing the ez up.

[ImGoinRCn]

Your transmission may not like the 3S either...unless you like powdered gears in the case...

[expertbasser]

Your transmission may not like the 3S either...unless you like powdered gears in the case...

Is that the same thing as letting the "magical blue smoke" out of either the motor or speed control? Sounds like it COULD be the same???

LOL!!!

[ImGoinRCn]

Mmmmmm, not quite the same. One is electrical. but both will cost you something in the end. lol

[expertbasser]

I think I know NOW which brushless system I'll be going with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ssLpgky5E&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.castlecreations.com%2Fproduc ts%2Fmamba_max.html&feature=player_embedded

Mamba doing 120+ mph!!!

:thumbs::huba:

[RC_KAOS]

I think I know NOW which brushless system I'll be going with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ssLpgky5E&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.castlecreations.com%2Fproduc ts%2Fmamba_max.html&feature=player_embedded

Mamba doing 120+ mph!!!

:thumbs::huba:


That was with the 7700kv. Castle also have a 9000kv motor but not availiable in the combo. Be interesting to see the New Mamba Max Pro, sounds like a sweet esc

[Joe V]

But that's not in a 2wd truck on a loose track

[expertbasser]

The Mamba INCLUDES the PC interface & software. You can tune it on the home computer. THIS alone would be the schiznit!

Besides, finger control also helps!:blbl:

LOL!!!

[ImGoinRCn]

Tekin Brushless systems have the hotwire and you can fine tune it at the track and you don't need a computer.

9000kv in a T4?? Wow! If you can get it hooked up, it will need a parachute to land.

[expertbasser]

Tekin Brushless systems have the hotwire and you can fine tune it at the track and you don't need a computer.

9000kv in a T4?? Wow! If you can get it hooked up, it will need a parachute to land.


I didnt know Tekin was still in business???? (I used to use Tekin before LRP!)

Can you just imagine:

Doing a 30 second or LESS lap, coming down the front straight, then hit the throttle at the double & doing a complete BACKFLIP at Harmony Hills??

Woooo hoooooooooo!!!

:huba::thumbs::rock:

[jr1976]

You could hit one jump and clear the track

[expertbasser]

Mwahahahahaha!@!!!!:claphat::rctruck:

[cbonner99]

JT was doing backflips with his E Revo yesterday

[jr1976]

THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!:thumbs::D

[ImGoinRCn]

http://www.teamtekin.com/

Clear the track? Clear the property!!

Line the trailers up in the pits!

[LUV DA AIR]

JT was doing backflips with his E Revo yesterdayYEAH MOST DEF. now that is THE MOST impressive rc ANYTHING Ive seen in a long long long time. If I ever own anything electric, it will be one of these. That thing turned awesome and had insane but contolable accelleration and handled the bumps as good as a 1/10 buggy IMO. All this on crap tires. If some 1/10 buggy tires could be addapted to fit, that thing would be hooked and faster.:huba:

1/16 E Revos are frign' INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!

[expertbasser]

YEAH MOST DEF. now that is THE MOST impressive rc ANYTHING Ive seen in a long long long time. If I ever own anything electric, it will be one of these. That thing turned awesome and had insane but contolable accelleration and handled the bumps as good as a 1/10 buggy IMO. All this on crap tires. If some 1/10 buggy tires could be addapted to fit, that thing would be hooked and faster.:huba:

1/16 E Revos are frign' INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!

We could have a class of those too!

[knoxslasher]

We could have a class of those too!

watched two of them race today on pavement at the knx hobbytwn races, was quite the spectacle, they were flying down the straightaways then bliping the throttle doing flat on the pavement backflips (while going est 25-30mph) and continuing down the straight, very cool to watch:thumbs:

[RC_KAOS]

YEAH MOST DEF. now that is THE MOST impressive rc ANYTHING Ive seen in a long long long time. If I ever own anything electric, it will be one of these. That thing turned awesome and had insane but contolable accelleration and handled the bumps as good as a 1/10 buggy IMO. All this on crap tires. If some 1/10 buggy tires could be addapted to fit, that thing would be hooked and faster.:huba:

1/16 E Revos are frign' INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!

1/16 E-Revos Hey

http://www.tenbol.com/sr_P1000478_640x480.JPG

http://www.tenbol.com/sr_P1000501_640x480.JPG

[HotRodYogi]

Bet tires, wings and diff dont last long on that one! Tried dual 2c lipo in there yet?:D

[jr1976]

It is all motor. Probably have to weigh it down to keep it on the ground.

[RC_KAOS]

Tekin Brushless systems have the hotwire and you can fine tune it at the track and you don't need a computer.

9000kv in a T4?? Wow! If you can get it hooked up, it will need a parachute to land.


Im still deciding on what my next build will be (SC8E) but more than likely will be running the Tekin RX8

http://www.teamtekin.com/product%20photos/Tekin_RX8_T8System.jpg

Something about the SC8E, just love the look and size of it

http://i27.tinypic.com/2s6wwa9.jpg

[expertbasser]

The one thing that (will probably!) keep me away from the Tekin, is the $$$!!!

I know the Novak is cheaper, & unless they've gotten way better, I think I'll stay away from that one too.

SO? What is left?

[RC_KAOS]

The one thing that (will probably!) keep me away from the Tekin, is the $$$!!!

I know the Novak is cheaper, & unless they've gotten way better, I think I'll stay away from that one too.

SO? What is left?

The Tekin Redline Sensorless Systems are only abit more than the Castle Mamba Combos - http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_221_911/products_id/23831/n/Tekin-R1-Pro-Mod-358-Brushless-ESC-Motor-Combo-35T-5800kV
What's left - LRP (i wouldn't touch) Traxxas - Speed Passion - Losi

[ImGoinRCn]

The Tekin Redline Sensorless Systems are only abit more than the Castle Mamba Combos - http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_221_911/products_id/23831/n/Tekin-R1-Pro-Mod-358-Brushless-ESC-Motor-Combo-35T-5800kV
What's left - LRP (i wouldn't touch) Traxxas - Speed Passion - Losi
I really like my Novaks, no problems at all no matter what I throw at it. I'm running an LRP TC Spec in my TC3 late model and I'm pretty happy with it. Haven't tried the Tekins not the Losi and the Traxxas. I wouldn't run the Traxxas nor the Losi, but that it me.

[RC_KAOS]

Found a nice setup that will be out soon - http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXXWJ0&P=SM

[Joe V]

Love my Novak TOO, no problems just got to keep a eye on motor temps

[jr1976]

Me too! Mine has done great so far. You running saturday at the hills joe?

[Zipper]

Im still deciding on what my next build will be (SC8E) but more than likely will be running the Tekin RX8

http://www.teamtekin.com/product%20photos/Tekin_RX8_T8System.jpg

Something about the SC8E, just love the look and size of it

http://i27.tinypic.com/2s6wwa9.jpg


That is wicked looking, it has that realistic look to it.

[expertbasser]

Me too! Mine has done great so far. You running saturday at the hills joe?

JR:

he has to WERK!!!! HAHAHA! I love having WEEKENDS OFF again!!!

[jr1976]

That figures! Got it worked out to work sunday instead!

[expertbasser]

That figures! Got it worked out to work sunday instead!

& All of us will be there NEXT SATURDAY!!!!!!!

Ain't you feeling a little ill NOW?

:eek:

[jr1976]

My wife has back toschool shopping to do and i will be in the area this weekend anyway.

[RC_KAOS]

I ended up deciding to get back into 1/10 and got a kit that I have always wanted, Losi XX-4 WCE :ah1: Always wanted once since they came out but back then parts were hard to come buy (Tower use to stock them though) and saddle pack batteries weren't very common.

http://i32.tinypic.com/5kkm6e.jpg

Planning on using Tekin Sensor 6.5R Motor and Tekin RS Pro ESC which should give it some go :thumbs:
Also going to be purchasing 2 x Kyosho ZX5 RTR's for my kids and will be building a track in the backyard to race against each other. Kyosho bought out a Orion Brushless ZX5 RTR but for some reason wasn't sold to America :confused: But will probably get the normal RTR version and either put a Novak Brushless in it or Castle Sidewinder 4600kv combo

http://www.d-edition.de/ebay_bilder/image_KY-30862_3_big.jpg

[jr1976]

Thats what i've got is a rtr. Brushless and lipo(after the fact)fast as well you know!

[Joe V]

Me to, but mine is a ZX-5 SP kit with some aluminum hop-up from 3Racing, fun to drive but might be selling it!

[jr1976]

I gotta get some parts for mine i broke the rear shock tower trying to see how far i could get on the triple just by starting in line with it as you come out of the curve. Btw i could land between the secon and third jump!

[expertbasser]

On LIPO Batteries:

HOW LONG will a 7.4V 2800 mah pack go with a Novak 7.5 or equilivent? Oh, 35C!

(Seeing as how THIS is the direction I may have to go UNTIL I can afford better!)

T.I.A.!

[Joe V]

I got the 3Racing ft. steering knuckles, rear hubs, and ft.& rear shock mounts in blue aluminum and going to get the Extreme Racing carbon shock towers and then maybe 3Racing C\F top plate and chassis

[Joe V]

On LIPO Batteries:

HOW LONG will a 7.4V 2800 mah pack go with a Novak 7.5 or equilivent? Oh, 35C!

(Seeing as how THIS is the direction I may have to go UNTIL I can afford better!)

T.I.A.!
about 4.5 min! no my 5000mAh with a 6.5 Novak will last over 20 mins just playing in the road then the 6v cut off shuts it down, that's just playing around don't know how long it will do in a race, guess I will find out Sat

[jr1976]

i got the 3racing ft. Steering knuckles, rear hubs, and ft.& rear shock mounts in blue aluminum and going to get the extreme racing carbon shock towers and then maybe 3racing c\f top plate and chassis
believe i need to look'em up!

[Joe V]

Greg and I were at Tiltyard in Dayton Va, a few years ago at a Norrca electric championship race and the 4WD mod buggies were AWESOME, Todd Lewis from Losi and Homer(owns the track) were back and forth all race long

[jr1976]

Can't wait to try mine out on the track now that i have some better tires. Stock one weren't much

[expertbasser]

Greg and I were at Tiltyard in Dayton Va, a few years ago at a Norrca electric championship race and the 4WD mod buggies were AWESOME, Todd Lewis from Losi and Homer(owns the track) were back and forth all race long

Man, those dudes were FASSSSSSSSSSSST!!!!!!

If I remember right, wasn't that my 1st time at 2wd mod buggy? A 12turn mod & so light in the front end, I had to install a front WING!!! WOW!!! The front end of the XXX Buggy would NOT stay on the ground down the back straightaway!

FUN though!

[jr1976]

Sounds like a blast!!!! Gonna get my b3 out tomorrow and see how it does!!!!

[RC_KAOS]

Thinking of giving Novak another try and use their GTB & 6.5R motor, just wish theirs esc's were like Castle/Tekin and can program throttle responses etc.

[porkchop]

tekin where it at for speedos

[Aj Smitty]

i have a losi slider and am looking for speed
thanks
wats the fastest brushless out there

[RC_KAOS]

i have a losi slider and am looking for speed
thanks
wats the fastest brushless out there

What do you plan on using it for?
What size battery do you plan on running?

[RC_KAOS]

Here is a better photo if my current 1/10 buggy - Losi XX4 WCE Decided to just run the Mamba Max 5700kv, mainly building this up for fun rather than speed and racing

http://forum.losi.com/picture.php?albumid=20&pictureid=172