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scoobie
06-12-2007, 12:22 AM
How to Turn Marshal




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by Sandra Fenton




One of those slick, glossy RC magazines recently published a letter to the editor I wrote in response to an article they ran on turn marshaling. I was flattered that Mike Myers tracked me down (not an easy feat, since my e-mail address had changed) and asked me to expand on it for Starting Grid.
My husband has a physical disadvantage (a bad knee that two surgeries have not been able to fix) and I have substitute marshaled for him for a number of years. While you can't detect this disability by looking at him, the crouching and twisting required of turn marshaling can cause his knee to go out at any time, sending us on a long drive home (it's over two hours to Hemet from where we live) and leaving him unable to work (without pay) for several days.

I'm pointing this out because I've seen a number of people out there trying to turn marshal who really shouldn't be in the first place. If you have a physical disadvantage you should not be marshaling, period! You cannot marshal optimally and should tell this to the race officials. If you don't have a buddy you can recruit to fill in for you, the officials should call for a volunteer and not penalize you. There are numerous racers here in Southern California who happen to be wheelchair users. No one expects them to marshal. And no driver wants a marshal who is disabled in any way to be the person who has to marshal their car! So if you're able, get out there and volunteer once in a while! Bring a friend along with you to the track and coach them on the fine art of turn marshaling!

I do a lot of volunteer marshaling, both during races and practice. Besides giving me something to do and providing some real exercise, I've made a lot of friends this way-believe me, everybody loves a volunteer marshal, especially during practice!
(While club races usually allow anyone to substitute marshal, many major events specify that only other drivers can fill in due to insurance regulations. So, I became a driver and a ROAR member. At the West Coast Gas Off-Road Championship in Hemet this past January, I finished 19th overall in 1/8 gas truck!)


Being a better turn marshal:

Stake out your turf! It's a good idea to marshal the same section every time if you can, because you'll become familiar with the crash zones in that section. Likewise, some sections have more crash zones, so some marshals will be busier than others. If you see an inexperienced or ineffective marshal struggling with a hard section, offer to trade positions with them.

Don't block the driver's view. Drivers need to be able to see their cars on the track at all times. In some cases, this may mean that a marshal has to crouch throughout the race. A tall marshal may prefer to take a post on the perimeter that allows them to remain standing, and leave the squatting positions to shorter/younger marshals.

Watch your section of the track, not the race! I know everyone's heard this one before, but it bears repeating over and over again. The majority of complaints I've heard about turn marshals stem from their not paying attention and staring off in another direction while there's a car on its lid right behind them. How many times has this happened to you?

Help other marshals when/if they need it. At the same time, you need to keep an eye on your nearby fellow marshals and back them up if they're running to help someone. A crash may occur that's technically in their territory, but you may see it first and be the only marshal who can do something about it in a timely manner.

Always marshal a car so that it points in the right direction when released. Obvious, you say? You'd be surprised how many times I've seen cars placed facing backwards on the track that crash again as they attempt to turn around.

Don't throw a car into oncoming traffic and cause another crash!Wait until the track is clear before you set the car back down on the track.


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Always place a car back onto the track at the point where it crashed. You may think you're doing someone a favor by helping them cut the track a little to make up for the time they lost on their lid, but they could end up being penalized a lap because of it.

All things being equal, strive to be fair in your marshaling.I hope you will resist the urge to help one of your buddies before someone else. Remember the Golden Rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The car that crashed first should be marshaled first, and if you're watching your section of the track and not the race, you should know who crashed first! Of course, if I've got a lot of ground to cover to get to a crash victim and someone else crashes in front of me on the way, I'll usually help them first.

If you notice that one car caused another to crash, help the innocent guy first. The guy who caused the crash doesn't deserve to be rewarded for it by being marshaled first.

For "equal" crashes, use a two-handed technique if possible. I recall the 1/10 scale A Main at the OFNA Challenge at Ranch Pit Shop in November 1994 where the two leaders had been neck-and-neck the entire race. Near the end, they tangled and locked up. I grabbed one in each hand and held on tight as I pulled them apart and released them simultaneously amid cheers from the crowd as they resumed their neck-and-neck rivalry. I wonder if anyone ever caught on to the fact that this was deliberate on my part. No one could say that I gave one an advantage over the other. I don't remember who won, but I did feel really good about my marshaling that day!

Never, ever cross oncoming traffic until it's safe to do so, for both you and the other cars on the track. Some drivers whine about how the marshal could have been there sooner-if you don't like the marshaling, don't crash in the first place! (I think a really interesting race would be one where the drivers have to run down off the stand and marshal their own cars!)

Safety First! I have seen more athletically inclined marshals actually pull off some amazing feats of daredevilry, saving the day for some poor driver in a truly grand fashion. If you choose to go this route, don't say I didn't warn you. I just hope you don't fall on top of an innocent driver's car and take him out of the race in your efforts to get someone else who's already crashed back on the track. Safety first should be every marshal's primary concern and no one can fault you for it. If you do pull it off, I'll be the first to applaud you, but you better be absolutely sure you can do it, okay?

A pair of inexpensive gardening gloves can really save your hands. They don't cost much - around $3 at your local supermarket. Gas engines and exhaust pipes get hot enough to sizzle flesh in a fraction of a second, and burned, painful fingers can impair your driving in your next heat. Sharp edges on Lexan bodies can slice you pretty good without your even knowing what happened until you see the blood dripping. Turn marshaling without gloves can also wreck your fingernails (before you conclude that I'm a "whiny chick" more concerned about her nails than doing a proper job of turn marshaling, let me add that I am a classical guitar player; my nails are my "picks" and one nail broken to the quick means about six weeks of trying to play with the equivalent of my big toe!) Ergo, I look out for my own best interests and always wear gloves when marshaling.

Thongs and sandals are NOT appropriate footwear for turn marshals! Think about it-RC car barreling along at 70mph vs. exposed feet-guess which wins (duh!). Steel-toed Redwings are not overkill.

Please be very careful about letting your children "help" you. Turn marshaling gas cars can be extremely dangerous! Your day at the track will be ruined if it ends with a trip to the emergency room!

scoobie
06-12-2007, 12:24 AM
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Racers - Get off the throttle when you're being marshaled! If you can't hang upside down for two seconds without flaming out, then you need to work on your tuning. Spinning wheels give turn marshals the equivalent of serious "rug burns" on their hands. When faced with a car that's being constantly gunned, I've gone so far as to stand back, put both hands up in the air and stare up at the driver's stand until the crashee lets off the gas. It's a very effective technique and the next time they crash, they are usually much more courteous.

A few thoughts on turn marshaling on-road versus off-road:

Turn marshaling off-road is easier, because falling on dirt is more forgiving than landing on pavement. Also, by nature of the course layout, off-road vehicles travel slower, though they can really pick up speed on the straight-aways. The main hazard with dirt tracks that affects turn marshals is that the tracks are often watered to keep the dust down, and the resultant mud can make slick going. I've seen more than a few turn marshals slide on their butts in the muck! (White slacks that have to be dry cleaned are an obvious bad choice for your track outings!)

Marshaling on-road is trickier and more dangerous due to the high speeds involved. Don't just look to the next corner to see what's coming, look well beyond it! Once at Revelation I looked both ways before crossing the track to turn a car, but hadn't taken into account how fast someone could round a corner which was 50' away. Everyone thought I got hit by the car and knocked down, but in retrospect I realized my instincts made me jump to avoid the car. The damage came when I fell and landed full force on my left knee, shredding my cotton leggings and putting a serious 3"x2" gash into my knee as I slid on the pavement (I still have the scar to prove it). Luckily, gloves protected my hands, or my palms would have been hamburger as they slid, too. If I'd been hit by the car, the damage could have been much worse.

Immediately after this little mishap, someone regaled me with a story about how another marshal had five toes broken at once when their foot went head-on with an on-road car while wearing athletic shoes. Probably not too many guys turn marshal in cotton leggings, but I've seen plenty of 'em out there in shorts, which offer no protection whatsoever. Then again, here in sunny Southern California I often see motorcyclists wearing shorts and sandals. Guess they like to live dangerously. It's your choice. Mine is to turn marshal as safely and effectively as possible!

Dave M
06-17-2007, 07:22 AM
Great read...now if we could only get the marshals to the track after they race, but i guess thats a different story. :cry:

LUV DA AIR
07-16-2008, 06:08 AM
Awsome read Matt. We could use a sticky like this in the E. Tn, forum. Can it be copied and locked?

I especially like, NEVER CROSS ONCOMING TRAFFIC,UNTIL ITS SAFE TO DO SO.

Dave D
07-16-2008, 11:02 AM
Great read...now if we could only get the marshals to the track after they race, but i guess thats a different story. :cry:

IMPOUND TABLE- We've been using it for the last 2 races and it seems to be working out great.

Great Read Scoobie.:thumbs:

NeoBart
07-16-2008, 11:45 AM
My last race at least 2 guys had there best qual time removed, because the didn't do there turn of marshalling.

team lo-tec
07-16-2008, 12:55 PM
IMPOUND TABLE- We've been using it for the last 2 races and it seems to be working out great.

Great Read Scoobie.:thumbs:

If we had an impound table at our track, there wouldnt be many left to race! lol.

goblin79
07-16-2008, 04:58 PM
thx for this thread my son races my car he is 9 so i do his turnmarshalling and it has helped me understand and bee cautious of some stuff that i dint even think bout before so thx again

cbonner99
07-16-2008, 05:21 PM
One thing that I try to do is drive around or stop to avoid the marshalls (if I am not the one that is being marshalled). There are several people around here that REFUSE to marshall and these are usually the ones that are always revving the engine while they are upside down. I have gotten to the point that I will not pick up a car unless the wheels are stopped. I really don't care if that upsets the driver or not.

scoobie
07-16-2008, 06:38 PM
LMAO...I never thought anyone read this

This thread is one of the best things that came from my SGrid subscription...lol

LUV DA AIR
07-17-2008, 05:57 AM
One thing that I try to do is drive around or stop to avoid the marshalls (if I am not the one that is being marshalled). There are several people around here that REFUSE to marshall and these are usually the ones that are always revving the engine while they are upside down. I have gotten to the point that I will not pick up a car unless the wheels are stopped. I really don't care if that upsets the driver or not.yeah Im tired of marshalling 2 times per round. While others dont at all. And these guys thast race 2 classes that dont, need to bring a marshall to handle there duties if they arent. I ALWAYS marshall the round after me. Thats how Ive done it for 9 years now. I will say this Ashley is easy on us, cause Ive raced places that will tell people to go home, or doc laps if you if flake out on marshalling!

Craig is right about the brakes if the wheels are moving, get used to flaming out. Im not touching it.:nono:

BoogeyMan
07-17-2008, 11:35 AM
if i see somebody with thongs at their feet i will throw dirt in there crack lol


Thongs and sandals are NOT appropriate footwear for turn marshal

CRAZY JATO
10-20-2008, 02:24 AM
:rock:hay every one im scott i think i speak for every one we r all raceer at hart even thought some r not as fast as some lol but we r all raceer lol an bashers an even some time the ones that r slow on the track like to race drity lol thats y it fun isnt that y we do it lets not forget thats y we like to do it lol the money helps so lets just keep it real:thumbs:

nitroRCs
10-20-2008, 03:31 AM
i sorta like marshelling but the only thing i do is always make sure i ahve enclosed shoes on and ALWAYS wear gloves!!:winner::winner::winner:i have burnt myself to mant times! and if u wear gloves u can turn off the car by flywheel with your finger and flip cars without thinking were to pick up the car so u dnt burn urself!

thats my 2cents worth

MiTcH